I am not sure if this is exactly related to this request, but it seems to be. I really liked the way I could set up funding in Mvelopes. I will give an example. I am paid every two weeks. But the amount varies as one check has insurance etc. taken out of it. So say one check is $2000 and one check is $1900. I had a preset funding called “Income 1” or “Income 2”. They funded exactly the envelopes I wanted with the exacts amounts I wanted. And say I got a check for $2300 due to overtime. I would select “Income 1” and it would show I had an additional $300 to allocate. So I could distribute that among envelopes as I wanted. It is very tedious currently as I have to fund every envelope individually.
Tricia: Now this makes sense to me. I remember you mentioning Mvelopes and I forgot to respond to that previous comment. Being blunt here, my immediate thought is I won't add something like this. I can see that being fairly complicated, as people often have more than just 2 income transactions per month. Like a refund, paycheck, interest from your savings account, side hustles, etc. I believe a middle ground to this is to be able to set a due-date on your categories, like I mentioned at the end of my first comment here. Once I add the ability to set a due date (12th of every month, for example) the Quick Assign button will fund your categories in order of due date. So if your electricity bill is due on the 12th at $100, your Netflix is due on the 13th at $20, and your paycheck comes in at $110, then the Assign button will put $100 into electricity and $10 into Netflix, regardless of the physical order of the categories (currently the Assign button assigns funds from top to bottom). I'll think of this, and feel free to share more details if you feel appropriate. Though I feel I understand the request �
Igor I understand this may be too complicated for now. I honestly don’t know if I would use a due date system. For instance, perhaps my Electric bill is due next week. However, my “Electric “ envelope is already overfunded, and I don’t want any money to go in there. I may not want to fund some of my “Wants” this paycheck because I need to pay a tuition payment, etc. Any system that assigns money to envelopes automatically needs to assign the money, then show how much is being put in each envelope, then let the user move money as desired, then they select the “distribute money” button to fill the envelopes.
Sarah Scheduled funding sounds like a nightmare to code. Let's put that one on the back burner, as you also say option 2 might be better. I have some questions about that. First, are you a month ahead? I am one month ahead in my budget, so when my paycheck comes in, I move to the next month to fund those categories. In that case, I don't care which order they are funded in, or if they're half funded or not, because I know by the time the 1st of the month comes, all of my categories will be fully funded from my paychecks from the previous month. If you're not a month ahead, then this makes total sense, so I'm just trying to see how you budget today. There is another feature request called "Fund Half" where Stevan says he'd like to have a quick-assign button that funds half of all categories. This is because he gets paid bi-monthly. Sounds like these are slightly related, where yours gives you more granular control over how much goes into each category with the click of the button (preset). And I do understand the order of the budget is often not related to the order you want to fund them. That was an oversight on my part because of what I mentioned that I only fund months in the future, so the order doesn't matter to me personally. You make a good point. I'm struggling to come up with a good way to display this in the app, though. 1. Does a "preset" let you choose the percent on a category level? Like fund 50% of Groceries, 50% of Electricity, etc. 2. What happens if the category is already 50% funded. Does it add on another 50%? 3. What if the fund percentage is 40%? Does it fund 40%, then 40%, then 20%? I have plenty more, but this will have to wait a bit anyway to, as you say, see if others are interested and for me to get more info from you and figure out how to solve this. I *think* a simpler approach might be to add due-dates on the categories. Then, when you auto-assign, it funds categories with the earliest due date instead of simply from top to bottom.
Igor Thanks for your so thoughtful and critical response I hadn’t thought to be a month ahead and I think the due dates was a great alternative. Ya if it’s a pain to code it’s just not worth it. your time could be better spent.
Sarah: Sweet! Thanks for the heads up. I'll close this one and mention that it was somewhat solved by due-dates. If you have some other request related to this, you can comment on this even if it is closed and we can discuss it, or email me, or just make a totally new request. 🙏
We've come to an agreement that this feels like a bit too much work to solve. I've since added due-dates for categories, so when you do the quick assign to fund your categories, it funds the categories that are due the earliest first. I think this is sufficient. If anyone disagrees, please simply open another request 🙏